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I've never thought basketball has made for good movies. Hoosiers was pretty successful, but I didn't see the appeal. What else do we even have to compare? Blue Chips was corny as anything, The Air Up There was a horrible idea from the beginning, The 6th Man should've been benched, and as much as I got a kick out of Celtic Pride, it wasn't the classic we've all been waiting for. So along comes Coach Carter, and director Thomas Carter tries to craft that very classic.
The film starts off with a tour of the inner city, the ghetto, if you will. How do we know it's the inner city, well from the hip-hop music, of course. This is immediately offputting, not only because it's bad music, but it's such a generic tool. If this sets the tone for the picture, it's a bad way to start. But then we get a glimpse of the basketball team in question. They are a terrible team, of course they are, because that's the way these films go. This game, just like all that games in the picture, is very well-choreographed. It looked good, like guys playing ball and not like actors playing pre-planned offenses and defenses. However, what I saw is something that I've never seen in a high school game of basketball. Dunking is a rarity and blocking shots by rotating on another's man and playing above the rim is very over-the-top for high school. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but this made me groan and roll my eyes. But audiences should "oooh" and "ahh" over these plays. So anyway, Ken Carter (Sam Jackson) takes over this pathetic team to make not only winners, but men, out these kids. But they direspect him. Why? Because they're young punks. Now just a thought, but is this whole inner city thing played out? Call it Dangerous Minds with a hoop, and you won't be far off.
So far, Sam Jackson is the saving grace. He has that ability to take a mediocre film and make it average. He has outstanding chemistry with his wife and his son (Robert Ri'chard) who soon joins the team. This has to be credited to Sam. He's just so charismatic. But the material is just too weak for him. It never gives any sort of reason as to why he took this thankless job of coaching a bottom-of-the-barrel team. And a lot of his lines sound like something someone would say in a movie. Sam does what he can, but with a script like this, you can only do so much. When he begins interacting with the boys on the team, he displays that hard edge that he does so well, Sam doing what we all loves watching Sam do: be a hardass. He gives these young punks instant respect and believably intrigues the players into paying him attention. Carter's son wanting to play for him also adds credibility to his coaching and makes him beliveable as a respected authority figure to these young thugs. Another thought, is the thug stereotype overused? We've seen it many times before, and we see it about ten more times in this film. It seems pretty stale. And to add to it, most of the kids' acting was very stiff. Aside from Ri'chard, no actor stood out from the rest of the team, they all felt like the same character split ten ways, and none of them were good at playing that character.
There were a number of script problems. The school's principal (Denise Dowse) was regularly giving Carter a difficult time about pushing academics, but there was never any rationalization behind it. Where was her point of view? Why all the hostility? I was waiting for an answer and it never came. Then there was a mention of Carter planning to attend a faculty meeting, but it never happened. It was incredibly awkward. Was this a deleted scene maybe? And probably the biggest complaint of the film, time and time again, Carter made all these emotional, touching speeches, and the camera panned in slowly for a close-up, and the cheeseball music cued up to exemplify how touching this part of the movie is. This came across as preachy.
However, the movie does take a turn for the better. Rather than strictly being a basketball movie, Carter pushes the concept of the student-athlete, with an emphasis on the student. This will at least set the film aside from other generic sports films. The writers did create a nice bookend device with Carter's insistance of asking one of his players, "What's you biggest fear?" However, the end result is unsatisfying. It goes overboard and is too structured.
All in all, Coach Carter is just too written, too structured, too by-the-template. It's nice to see Sam do his Sam thing, but that's not enough to save a film. A lot of the kids had subplots, some good (dealing with the decision abortion vs. birth with a pregnant girlfriend) some bad (thug player seeing the horrors of turning to a life of drug dealing, mother asking the coach to bend rule for her son's junior college prospects). Seriously, if you;re jonesing for a basketball flick, go rent Celtic Pride |
Cinema Guru Boy Rating: 4
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| VISITOR COMMENTS |
| Tom | December 30th, 2004 | Reply |
Yeah this one looked rather "blah" from the previews. How many times to do we have to re-write the "Tough ass coach who gets more from his kids on the court, while teaching them more about whats important off the court" movie?
Its becoming as cliche'd as the "Underdog team of loveable losers banding together against all odds to beat overpaid/overhyped team of players, despite their inter-grumblings."
At least the later movie still generates some laughs from time to time. |
| Matthew | January 7th, 2005 | Reply |
| As much as it's been overdone, it's never a good movie if the big hot-shot squad always wins. How can the underdog have any hope if they always lose in the movies? I think that this movie should prove to be a good one, and I'm excited to go see it. |
| lindsey | January 9th, 2005 | Reply |
| the on scene tha really stood out to me was when timo cruz (rick gonzalez) said the speech about his greatest fears. if anyone knows the lines to that id like them. |
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| paniagua | January 9th, 2005 | Reply |
| yeah that fear speech left me speechless... i'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me the lines. |
| Joe | January 11th, 2005 | Reply |
| I found that speech awkward. This thug is suddenly sprouting lines that sound poetic, and almost as if he's reading them off cue cards? I don't like that. I realize it's from Nelson Mandela's book, but they never mentioned the source in the film. They made it seem like this thug put this speech together, and they never referenced his affection for Mandela. Why would hesuddenly out of the blue be a Mandela fan? I disliked that. |
| Kris | January 14th, 2005 | Reply |
| First of all how are you going to say that you know its the "ghetto" by the "hip-hop" music? That is so stupid. And how are you going to say that "hip-hop" music is bad? I personally happen to live in the quote unquote "ghetto" and I am here to tell you that live is like the moives for us. It does suck and every once in a while we have somebody come along that cares. The kids around here have alot of hidden talents. They may be thugs, but thats not all they are. I found the movie quite real to what we go through. I admitt the whole thing wasn't totally like it "really" is but most of the off-court parts were pretty familar. |
| Joe | January 15th, 2005 | Reply |
| I want to say, I live in the ghetto, too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not paralleling the ghetto with hip-hop, Thomas Carter is. I was pointing out how generic a tool this is to introduce a ghetto area with hip-hop music. Nor was I saying hip-hop is bad, I was saying this particular hip-hop song they used was bad. I think these are all fair staements and I stand by them. |
| Shay | January 16th, 2005 | Reply |
| Your criticisim of the movie is well due but some of your points are gray. I do not believe you watched the whole movie. You see the principal explained why she was so much against pushing academics, which was because it is impossible given the situation that most of the kids are in when attending a school in the inner city. For the most part a school such as this has to get adequate funding to provide resources to benefit the students education, the prinicpal stated this based on the API. A school cannot get funding unless the school reaches a specific standard based on the API, getting students to perform at these levels is a continual circle that makes it hard to force education. Also, Coach Carter wasn't going to the faculty meeting the principal said she would discuss his concerns when "she" attends the faculty meeting. |
| Kenny | January 16th, 2005 | Reply |
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.
Your playing small doesn't serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God within us.
It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others. |
| alex | January 17th, 2005 | Reply |
| fuck u man. whoever wrote this needs a huge reality check. first off you cant say bout how its not the ghetto. how should u no. u should be shot for sayin stuff like that. i saw the movie and it was the best sports upbringing story that ive seen since remember the titans. i thought it proved how one group of kids could cight throught the odds and go on to be successful and have a good career. Sam jackson gave one of his best acts since pulp fiction i thought. i think u need to go see the movie. then write another fuckin review |
| Counselor | January 17th, 2005 | Reply |
| First, thanks Kenny the poem was kick butt and looking for the words brought me to this site. I loved the movie, the concept and all. some said it was predictable, I didn't think so. I guess me personally, I can never get enough of stories that protray the underdogs overcoming and beatting the odds. God Bless! |
| Joe | January 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| "first off you cant say bout how its not the ghetto." I don't know what this means. Did I say something's not the ghetto? And why shouldn't I know? And you want a "fight the odds" sport movie? Throw a friggen' dart and you'll hit one! This one was just more preachy and after-school-special-esque than most, which is bad. I've never knocked Sam's performance, in fact I praised it! However, this was a more one-dimensional role than he usually does. I saw the film, and it was far inferior to films like Remember the Titans. Nobody can deny it was predictable and generic, and underdogs overcoming odds is just tiresome. I still think all these statements are fair and I'll stand by them. |
| Dave | January 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| Saw the movie on Saturday with my daughter...and love it. I know it's somewhat trite, but in the theater we went to people were dancing in their seats and cheering and clapping. People that review movies for a living I think are jaded. A good movie doesn't have to be high brow...Sometimes it can just be fun, and invoke emotions |
| Harold Russell | January 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| I teach middle school. I am black, male, and fifty years old. I wanted to stand up and say "Can I get an Amen!" so many times in that movie but I would have embarassed my family. This movie obviously will mean different things to different people but to say that it is cliched seems to me to take the easy way out. Did you go to the movies looking for reality? Here's reality. Anything that makes people see the disservice we do our young people by convincing them that they can only do one thing, that poo poos hope not just in the kids but in their parents as well is well-crafted and worthy of praise. It is of course difficult for people who don't teach to relate to these issues; many of you just want us to babaysit. But I have lived these things and I can tell you that Celtie Pride is a joke (which it was supposed to be) and Coach Carter isn't. |
| Harold Russell | January 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| OOps. I meant Celtic Pride. I don't want anybody writing and saying the teacher cain't even spel! |
| Joe | January 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| That movie was one of the best movies ive ever seen so fuck all yall that said that it sucked cuz ur obviously haters... Timo Cruz said it best in that speech and i kno cuz life in the ghetto isnt the best and this movie shows that to over come your deepest fear u need to incounter it first |
| Joe | January 19th, 2005 | Reply |
| First off, I don't appreciate this character named Joe typing under the same name as me, it looks like I'm being a hostile fellow (that being the fellow who wrote "That movie was one of the best movies ive ever seen so fuck all yall that said it sucked cuz ur obviously haters..." whereas all those before that one were mine). Then I want to say how much I do appreciate how much discussion my review has fueled. And I want to say how glad I am that those of you did like it. But this, in my humble opinion, very by-the-numbers. It's great that these things happen in real life. I have all the respect in the world for the real Coach Carter. But this was a film based on a true story, not a documentary. That means they took something that happened and ran with it. This was a Hollywood story. A very typical one at that. Maybe Mr. Russell is right and I am too jaded. Maybe after watching as many movies as I do I just want something different and this is inarguably not. |
| Audra | January 20th, 2005 | Reply |
Hey all...The speech given in the movie is actually a poem from a Marianne Williamson novel "Return to Love"
often mis-attributed to Nelson Mandela who, contrary to internet legend,
did not use the quote in his inaugural address! |
| nyisha | January 21st, 2005 | Reply |
| the movie was awesome and had a great message. If u didn't like it, you just didn't get it. Sorry. |
| Steph | January 29th, 2005 | Reply |
| it seems that a couple of people here for from the ghetto, and as i read Timo cruz's speech the geatest fear, I just wondered if anyone there actually felt like that...im not from there so i wouldn't know.....some insight would be great though |
| cynthia | February 2nd, 2005 | Reply |
| People in the ghetto have computers? and if so, why are they coming onto a movie review site? |
| Tyrese | February 13th, 2005 | Reply |
| If you noticed in Cruz's speech they took out the parts where God was mentioned. And becasue someone is in the ghetto it doesnt mean they dont have any money. As seen in the movie, the people were too proud and had enough money to dis Goodwill. So dont judge someone on where they live. |
| MB | February 14th, 2005 | Reply |
Man, some of you people take this stuff way too seriously. Some people like certain movies, other don't - no big deal.
To that Alex person, nice language. Learn to spell. |
| Zeeb | February 24th, 2005 | Reply |
| Let's not forget that most satisfying part, whether you felt it from the deep fear speech, the movie itself, the acting, or what have you- that this movie is based on a TRUE story. Not to say the movie is less credible in some degrees, but that the "ghetto" that you seem to argue about was portrayed as perhaps what most of the audience would expect it to be, it doesn't have to be parrallel with reality, but more so with what viewers can portray a ghetto to be. This shit was deep, movie deserves more credit then these jack ass critiques. |
| Joe | February 26th, 2005 | Reply |
| I assure you, "based on a true story" doesn't mean anything in the film actually happened. Open Water was based on a true story. Cannibal! The Musical was based on a true story. I hate to break it to you, but that means absolutely nothing. |
| Greg | May 3rd, 2005 | Reply |
Cannibal the Musical was great comedy, and satire. Passion of the Christ was "based on a true" story too, theoretically . Doesn't mean I am gonna be a Christian or eat frozen corpses!
P.S. the Mandela speech was written by Marianne Williamson and Nelson Mandela used HER words in his inauguration!
And they are wise words, despite whether you live in the ghetto or not! |
| #22 | June 23rd, 2005 | Reply |
| I absolutely LOVED this movie, compared to soooo many other sports movies, this one really feels real. And the DVD is sick man, with all the deleted scenes! buy it! |
| sarah | June 30th, 2005 | Reply |
| hahaha hello read the name of the site "jackasscritics dot com" the name explains it all...i loved the movie..in fact i'm watching it for the 3rd time "Joe" |
| Greg | July 2nd, 2005 | Reply |
Nelson Mandela's inaugural speeches in 1994 (in Pretoria and Capetown) made no mention of the poem. Marianne Williamson is the true and only source.
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/mandela/
http://www.quotationspage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2406
Using music as a ridiculously obvious direction on how the audience is supposed to 'feel' in parts of a movie can be insulting (Team America was the most obvious abuse of this, in recent efforts). If hip-hop was playing in the library while people studied, would it be 'wrong'? To hollywood types, yes.. since they want that sound to be the a clear direction that the storyline is heading to 'the ghetto' -- whereas hip-hop and rap long ago reached up from their 'struggletown' roots and are heard everywhere. I wonder how angry minorities expressing their life's frustrations would feel if they knew their songs would be blared out of women's fashion stores so that uplifted shoppers would celebrate and buy more.
As for the basketball, at least the ball went from their hands to the basket in one uncut shot. I'm so sick of seeing an awkward, obvious miss end up going in as 'nothing but net' due to post-production edits.
Personally, the most suitable summary of the movie was a small footnote at the end - that Carter's son got into West Point. Even being from Australia, I recognise the effort that kid and his family would have gone through to achieve such a thing. I look forward to hearing what he makes of himself.
If only the kids and educators started each school year thinking every kid in class can go to West Point if they so wish. But that's too corny to be cool, huh? |
| butters | July 18th, 2005 | Reply |
our deepest fear is not that we are inadaquete
our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond messure
it is out light, not our darkness that mosts frightens us
your playing small does not serve the world
there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people wont feel insecure around u
we are all ment to shine as children do
it is not just in some of us
its in everyone
and as we let our own light shine
we unconsciencly give other people permission to do the same
as we are liberated from our own fear
our presecence automaticly liberates others
thats what he says in the movie |
| ed | July 18th, 2005 | Reply |
| i think this is one of the greastest sports movies EVER |
| Rit | July 20th, 2005 | Reply |
| This movie really touched me this is the best film i have ever seen (so far im only 16 and not pretending to be an expert on classics) i think people that bad mouth films should just shut up if it aint your thing then deal with it. ANOTHER brilliant act by samual jackson AND Robert Ri'chard who is also one of my favrioute actors from the 'touble' sitcom one on one anyways enoth of my chattin on.. l8rs |
| courtney | August 15th, 2005 | Reply |
| i agree with alex way up there i fee the same way about it |
| September 26th, 2005 | Reply |
| Great Movie to watch.I really liked timoz speech it was touching.Also Samual Jackson and Robert Rich'ard acting were outstanding |
| Hey whats that quote mean? | November 2nd, 2005 | Reply |
our deepest fear is not that we are inadaquete
our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond messure
it is out light, not our darkness that mosts frightens us
your playing small does not serve the world
there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people wont feel insecure around u
we are all ment to shine as children do
it is not just in some of us
its in everyone
and as we let our own light shine
we unconsciencly give other people permission to do the same
as we are liberated from our own fear
our presecence automaticly liberates others
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| dietlind | December 31st, 2005 | Reply |
hey,
I'm just a thirteen year old girl, and I live in Europe, Belgium. So my review will probably look like shit but I'll just give it a go :D.
I think it's a pretty good movie although these type of movie's have been done like a hundred times and the acting wasn't that good (but that's just me being very critical as always). I play basketball (and I actualy won 6 times in a row now) and the basketball scenes were very good, it wasn't like actors playing basketball (well actualy it was :D) it looked more like baketball players playing very good games!! And it actualy has some humour in it and there is some partying going on *smiles* !! The ghetto seemed very believeble (wich I quite enjoyed).
I liked this movie a lot and it inspired me to study very hard (I've been getting pretty good grades recently :D) so I won't end up as a homeless person or something like that!!
Oh by the way
Kenny-
cheers mate (for that quote I was looking for :D)
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| Lauren | January 25th, 2006 | Reply |
Can anyone tell me that speech that Samuel L Jackson makes about respecting urself when the kids use the n word please. Thanks
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| baby gurl | January 27th, 2006 | Reply |
that movie is so hot men .. timo cruz is da hottest boy there ... so hot
I lov thatt movie so much.
Baby Gurl
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| james | February 20th, 2006 | Reply |
| the movie was the one and only true getto movie |
| tama | May 16th, 2006 | Reply |
| it was a good movie,the what is yo deepest fear was real good,tho the way it was delivered sucked,it was to mermorized,ol could see that timo didnt come up with those lines apart from that it was real deep |
| Maria, | July 17th, 2006 | Reply |
| I own the DVD the real Coach Carter explains what acctualy happened and alot of the movie did happen, like the whole lock out and other things. To whom ever said "why would that kid just come out n say the speech ?" if you never noticed, Coach Carter kept asking him what his biggest fear was, that's why. Most likely because he listened to Coach and wanted to find him an answer. This movie is amazing, everything about it, they lost their final game but gained much more for themselves with having him as a coach, that is a fairytale ending in a very big way. |
| Maria, | July 17th, 2006 | Reply |
| To add to my last comment, no one ever said "Timo" came up with the speech, I don't get why you're all saying it " you could see he didn't come up with the lines" that's because it wasn't supposed to look like he did . |
| Lisa | August 17th, 2006 | Reply |
| This is what he said: "Nigger is a derogatory term used to insult our ancestors. See, if a white man used it you'd be ready to fight. Your using it teaches him to use it. Your saying it's cool. Well, it's not cool. When you're around me I don't wanna hear that shit. We clear?!" |
| Lennie P | September 16th, 2006 | Reply |
| My take on the use of the term "Nigger" is that with its use by black people, to address black people it removed the insult. You don't hear it used as a weapon by racists nearly as much as it was when I was at school, and I went to school in a predominantly white area and was one of three black kids that attended. |
| Lennie P | September 16th, 2006 | Reply |
| I would also like to state that my take on the message conveyed was that we shouldn't settle for what is expected of us, regardless of colour, culture, or lack of opportunity. What we should always strive for is to be all we want to be and never look back thinking "what if!" |
| jackass | September 21st, 2006 | Reply |
| You guys are all crazy this movie is a very toching movie to a lot of people maybe not perfect it's has a good meaning along with Remeber the Titans and better meaning for it then friday night lights i give it a 10 |
| SomeGuy 43:) Call me | July 8th, 2007 | Reply |
I really liked the part of: it is out light, not our darkness that mosts frightens us
Because, if some of you realize, it`s true, and thanks to that I got to understand why do people do sometimes suddenly get depress(specialy us teenagers; so we"shrink so that other people wont feel insecure around us" but really we let our own light shine
we unconsciencly give other people permission to do the same.
So don't shrink, shine as you were meant to be |
| Kie | August 27th, 2007 | Reply |
| Youm all bloody mad, i fort coach carter was a brilliant fim which emphasised first of all the all-around difficulties of growing up in some suburbs of america as a kid such as drugs, violence, schoolwork. Also you critisise the music at the begining of this fim and desmiss it directly without reason. I could easily say that rock music is complete rubbish although this will not stop millions of people listening to it and will obviously not make it true. With this in mind i thnk it was another good idea playing the hip-hop style music in the opening section because it fits the scene perfectly unlike playing classical music or even having no music at all. The Deepest fear speech was a quite interesting pict on the poem Deepest fear. It stands out as being one of the key corner stones of the fiml seeing as Timo Cruz is one of the most troubled members on the team it marks out for him what has been bothering him throughout his life and sets a good example for some teenagers in the world. All together i think that coach carter is a fantastic and powerful film and does stand out for the basketball orientated depict of ghetto lifestyle found in so many other fims. But if being this "Just another ghetto film" is truely a critisism then why are you not critisising star wars as being just another space fim and spiderman as just being another vigilanty with superpowers action fims?? |
| Morgan | February 20th, 2008 | Reply |
| I think you are all out of your minds. This movie was a wonderfully inspirational flick and seeing moved me. The actors play the parts brilliantly and frankly anyone whoe doesn't love this film is out of their minds. i would rate it 4 1/2 out of 5. |
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